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We have to accept the fact that there is no '80s source for dreampop.
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It is POV if you categorize a band retroactively. Popular music is different from classical music. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 16:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC) Gothic rock, trip hop, technopop (synthpop), drum & bass, house music and hundreds of other terms. That's never been true and never will be. You seem vehemently and stubbornly set in the notion that genres are formed instantly and are then inviolate and unchanging in how they are defined or applied. No, what I meant was, the very idea that music genres are created/named only at the time they are formed or prevalent, and are never applied/used/accrued over time, or applied retroactively ("classical" music was not called "classical" when it was being created, to use the most basic and obvious example) is not only inaccurate, but is your personal POV. RivetHeadCulture ( talk) 09:07, 7 March 2015 (UTC) That's a historical fact, not "Rivet's POV". And every fucking single source from the '90s underlines this fact. Read Option music magazine, Sound Choice, Alternative Press etc. Greg Fasolino ( talk) 01:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC) So you call music magazines POV? You should know better. "simple fact" = RivetHeadCulture's personal, very subjective opinions. RivetHeadCulture ( talk) 23:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC) And it is also a simple fact that "dreampop" was only a synonym of "shoegazing". I mean it's really a simple fact that "ethereal" is older than "dreampop". Important is the meaning of the terms and, of course, the historical context. They took it from the Germans (Hyperium records and German music magazines such as "Zillo").īut back to the point. People know about darkwave because Projekt records used the term in the early '90s. Of course it's unknown in the U.S., like "dark wave" itself (an European catch-all term for dark '80s new wave music). "Ethereal wave" may be a strange term, but it's just an alternative term, primarily used in Central Europe. Kane, i guess, but only as a self-description). Dreampop doesn't appear in any '80s review (except for A.R.
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'80s reviews and classified ads are full of this "ethereal thing". the tussle about dreampop/ethereal will never end.Įthereal, ethereal goth, ethereal pop, ethereal rock are '80s terms. Thank you.īetacommandBot 05:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC) It seems. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
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